Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/12/2003 01:04 PM House JUD

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HB 77 - RIGHT TO LEAVE CAR RUNNING                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 2237                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE announced that the  next order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 77, "An Act  allowing certain motor vehicles to be                                                               
operated while unattended."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2248                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM MOFFATT,  Staff to Representative Bob  Lynn, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  said on  behalf  of  Representative Lynn,  sponsor,                                                               
that HB  77 was  introduced in  response to  a January  29, 2003,                                                               
Anchorage Daily News article titled  "REMOTE CONTROL Starting car                                                             
from  afar is  just  the  ($40) ticket."    He  relayed that  the                                                               
article  describes  how a  lady  received  a traffic  ticket  for                                                               
starting her unattended car with a  remote starter.  He said that                                                               
the  violation  is based  on  a  1978 Anchorage  municipal  code.                                                               
However, he added,  current state law also  prohibits people from                                                               
leaving unattended vehicles  running.  He opined  that this state                                                               
prohibition is obsolete.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MOFFATT  referred to  a  legislative  research report  dated                                                               
February 18,  2003, which relayed [that  the Consumer Electronics                                                               
Association estimates] that approximately  one million remote car                                                               
starters  were  sold  [industry-wide]  in 2002,  with  a  typical                                                               
increase in  sales of 10  to 15 percent  per year.   He mentioned                                                               
that  General Motors  Corporation  has announced  plans to  offer                                                               
remote starters  as a factory  option on certain  2004 automobile                                                               
models.   He  said that  according to  six dealers  in Anchorage,                                                               
11,000 remote starters were sold  in 2002; and according to three                                                               
dealers in Fairbanks,  4,400 were sold in 2002.   He posited that                                                               
these numbers probably represent only  40 to 50 percent of remote                                                               
starter  sales  statewide.    He   offered  his  estimation  that                                                               
approximately  10 to  15  percent of  all  Alaskan vehicles  have                                                               
remote starters.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MOFFATT observed  that  due to  extremely  cold climates  in                                                               
several areas  of Alaska,  it has long  been common  practice for                                                               
drivers to  leave automobiles running unattended,  while business                                                               
is conducted indoors nearby.   He suggested that failure to leave                                                               
an automobile running during extremely  cold whether might result                                                               
in the car not restarting.   Thus, he opined, the law should make                                                               
allowances  for  Alaska's weather  conditions.    In closing,  he                                                               
said, "HB 77 will repair the  current obsolete law, and permit an                                                               
automobile to have its engine running,  so long as the vehicle is                                                               
locked and is not  occupied by a child under 14  or by a disabled                                                               
person."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE questioned  whether  HB 77  is  merely a  proposed                                                               
state  law that  would essentially  throw out  all the  municipal                                                               
policy decisions on this issue.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOFFATT  opined that if  a municipality has  developed policy                                                               
that  prohibits people  from running  their vehicles  unattended,                                                               
then the policy is improper and should be corrected.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE asked which other municipalities have such policy.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOFFATT said he only knew that Anchorage did.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE relayed  that she  strongly favors  local control;                                                               
she  said  she  would  feel  more  comfortable  with  "permissive                                                               
language" as  opposed to  "mandating."  She  suggested that  in a                                                               
state as big as Alaska, certain  policy decisions have to made at                                                               
the local level.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 03-19, SIDE B                                                                                                            
Number 2382                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG   remarked    that   Chair   McGuire's                                                               
statements have a  lot of merit.  He then  turned to the language                                                               
on  page 1,  line  14, which  says,  "or that  is  occupied by  a                                                               
disabled person".  He said:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Let's  say  that you  have  a  person who  is  disabled                                                                    
     because  they're paralyzed  from  the  waist down,  and                                                                    
     they may  be fully capable  of operating that  car with                                                                    
     special  controls.   ...  For   the  purpose   of  this                                                                    
     legislation,   they   should   not   be   treated   any                                                                    
     differently than  any other fully capable  driver.  And                                                                    
     I really want to protect those people.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG surmised that HB  77 needs a little work                                                               
regarding that issue.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE asked Mr. Moffatt  whether he has done any research                                                               
to  ensure  that  HB  77   complies  with  the  [Americans  with]                                                               
Disabilities Act (ADA).                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MOFFATT, in  response, said  that  he and  the sponsor  were                                                               
largely concerned  [instead] "with  the remote  starter" [issue].                                                               
He recalled  that the law  prohibiting people from  leaving their                                                               
vehicles running  was originally developed  in an effort  to help                                                               
prevent  auto  theft.   He  relayed  that  it  would be  his  and                                                               
Representative  Lynn's  preference  to simply  repeal  all  [such                                                               
restrictions].   He  said that  according  to the  aforementioned                                                               
newspaper article,  the state  law is  more restrictive  than the                                                               
municipal ordinance.   He mentioned  that he would be  willing to                                                               
remove from HB 77 the reference to disabled persons.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE remarked  that from  a constitutional  standpoint,                                                               
when making reference  to disabled persons in  statute, one needs                                                               
to be very  clear what that definition entails,  adding that some                                                               
folks are  disabled in ways that  don't have anything to  do with                                                               
driving.   She  mentioned  that the  committee  would be  seeking                                                               
information from him on the issue of compliance with the ADA.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2253                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ANDERSON  noted  that  HB 77  does  not  actually                                                               
delete  anything from  statute;  rather,  the restrictions  under                                                               
discussion are  located in  the Alaska  Administrative Code  as a                                                               
regulation.    Alaska  statute does  not  prohibit  someone  from                                                               
leaving a  vehicle running, only  the state regulation does.   He                                                               
suggested  that perhaps  the sponsor  should consider  a solution                                                               
involving  a  change  of  regulation, rather  than  a  change  of                                                               
statute.  He then mentioned that  he, too, views local control as                                                               
important, and  prefers permissive language.   He asked  how many                                                               
tickets have been issued for violating the state regulation.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOFFATT  said that  he has  not researched  that information,                                                               
adding  that  the  sponsor  holds the  conviction  that  "one  is                                                               
enough."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDERSON, turning to language  on page 1, line 14,                                                               
asked why the age of 14 was chosen.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS remarked  that 14 is the age  at which one                                                               
can get a driver's permit.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOFFATT noted that 14 was  the age chosen by the drafter, and                                                               
suggested that perhaps it was chosen for that very reason.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL mentioned  that several  communities "get                                                               
levied"  by the  Department of  Environmental Conservation  (DEC)                                                               
for  "air-quality  issues."   He  remarked  that perhaps  leaving                                                               
vehicles  running could  be problematic  during certain  times of                                                               
the year.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOFFATT relayed  that the DEC has conducted  research on this                                                               
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2095                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RON G.  KING, Program  Manager, Air  Non-Point &  Mobile Sources,                                                               
Division  of Air  & Water  Quality,  Department of  Environmental                                                               
Conservation (DEC),  confirmed that  the DEC has  performed tests                                                               
and found that the emissions from  a car that has been idling and                                                               
then driven  are not significantly  different than  the emissions                                                               
from a car that  is simply started up and driven  off, as long as                                                               
the idling vehicle has  been doing so for less than  an hour.  He                                                               
stated that the Department of  Conservation has no position on HB
77.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE  asked Mr.  Moffatt to  provide the  committee with                                                               
information  regarding  how  many municipalities  currently  have                                                               
codes that prohibit  leaving a vehicle running;  how many tickets                                                               
have been issued - she remarked  that one is probably not enough;                                                               
whether HB  77 as written  complies with the ADA,  how "disabled"                                                               
is being defined, and what the  link is with operating a vehicle;                                                               
and why the age of 14 was chosen.   She asked Mr. Moffatt to talk                                                               
with the  sponsor regarding the  committee's concern  about local                                                               
control.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  remarked that since  this [restriction]                                                               
is currently a  regulation, the committee should  give thought to                                                               
the  issue  of whether  it  wants  to  establish a  precedent  by                                                               
addressing a regulatory concern via statute.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOFFATT  asked whether the  committee would be amenable  to a                                                               
committee substitute that simply voids the regulation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE  remarked that that would  be one way of  doing it.                                                               
She asked Mr.  Moffatt to consider the whole issue  from a policy                                                               
standpoint, to provide the committee  with the information it has                                                               
requested, and to consider the  possibility of coming back with a                                                               
committee substitute that addresses the committee's concerns.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVES  COGHILL  and  GRUENBERG,  on   the  issue  of  a                                                               
potential  conflict  of interest,  noted  that  they have  remote                                                               
starters for their vehicles.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[HB 77 was held over.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

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